Trolls being trolled

[badgerbag]

Looks like now what's happened is, someone from SA re-posted zathlazip/hypersurfaces/Rachel Moss's original post over on a sort of SA-meta-wank forum. They used her photo to make a new account, so that it looks as if she just reposted it herself.

So, this community of jokers is turning the misogynist firehose right back onto zathlazip. They're calling her names, evaluating whether or not they'd "do her", and mocking her for whining and trying to get the post taken down.

Looks like she did try and succeed in getting the post with its pages & pages of racist, sexist comments removed.

((edited: I found this post from an anonymous commenter on SA, who posted this exact text with the last names blanked out. I did not post it, but later, the person who did told me who they were.))

Rachel ____,

Taking secret photos of people at WisCon and posting harassment on Something Awful is more damaging than you realize. You did not post personal information, but forum goons are already starting to stalk people. You are hurting peoples' academic lives and real-world careers.

I'll refer you to your school's policies on sexual harassment:
http://www.oed.wisc.edu/sexualharassment/

If your post on Something Awful is still up on Wednesday, I'll contact Dr. _____ of the Department of Environmental Chemistry and Technology, explain the problem, and ask him to ask you to take it down.

I hope you put this to rest before it gets out of control.

See how her "friends" on SA mock her,

got an e-mail from someone at the con threating to report her writings to her college... She immediately caved and started crying asking the mods to delete the thread.

Normally this would get you made fun of by goons -- but since this is a girl the White Knight Action Patrol immediately swooped into action and deleted all traces of the thread from the Goldmine.

I'm surprised that SA took it down. They make a lot of money off popular posts like that one.

Most of that thread is more fat-person-hating and woman hating and photos from the con re-posted, with comments on our fuckability and ugliness. we are all ugly, fat lesbians. Yup, all of us. Just fyi.

One comment did kind of make me laugh about the clothing swap, they bet you could make a few hundred sweaters off the cat hair on those clothes. YEAH CRAZY CAT LADIES OF THE UNIVERSE UNITE!!

Then another bit cracked me up, under a photo of me and the birds of prey last year, some dude commented, "Is that cripple under the impression that a Wonder Woman T-shirt constitutes a Wonder Woman costume" Hallo... dumbass... I was ORACLE.

Other comments on photos of me,

"The irony of a super femnazi bitch wearing a Wonder Woman shirt is just too much for me to handle"

"So what's Wonder Cripple's superpower? Being able to walk?"


Actually, yes. Hahahah! It's a miracle, I can walk!

Anyway.

I'd like to go back to thinking about all the awesomeness at the con, and tonight will post some book lists and some more panel transcripts.






This is pretty sad. What a childish, hateful, stupid thing to do.

Comments

[littlebutfierce]

Perhaps people could start something like the Dan Savage/Rick Santorum campaign. B/c, yeah, in the age of employers googling everyone? That would be really enlightening for any future coworkers who might be in any of the (many, many) categories of people she hated on.

[badgerbag.livejournal.com]

I agree. I do hope she is safe, and that she gets help for her really intense self-hate. I do feel bad for her. I can't really imagine a woman writing those things about other women, for an audience of primarily men and boys, without her having an awful lot of self-hatred. Her own body image? How must it be, for her to hate fat women so much? Not an accident that her post was actually titled with the words "self hate".

So I'm not unfeeling, and I have a lot of empathy for where she is coming from. Again, I hope she gets some help and support for her to think through this.

[whooz-queen.livejournal.com]

Google her enough, and you'll find that she links herself to the pro-ana movement (in an lj post on a community which commented upon the suicide of a pro-anorexic forum leader). Rachel also pops up in other places, questioning the idea of 'supporting' fat feminists whilst barely hiding her disgust. At a guess, I'd say the whole fat-hating thing is a self-loathing streak a mile deep.

Even if she decides to delete that LJ, the situation is big enough now that future employers, future con organisers and so on are going to recognise her name and actions. If she was a smart chickadee, she'd do a large mea culpa post on her LJ, detailing what she did wrong, why she was wrong to do it and how she will be changing her attitude in the future. At the moment, her LJ reactions (in response to friends) smack of 'grumpy teenager who was caught doing the wrong thing but isn't really sorry'.

[badgerbag.livejournal.com]

Huh. I just looked around a little. and found she has had a serious sounding struggle with eating disorders. Her posts range from trying to help others and advise them to take it seriously and get help, to trying to get a handle on pro-ana politics (not sounding pro-ana herself, but wanting to know how to help, not villify), to trying to get help or advice herself.

I think it is important for the people who are angry at her to consider her confused state. I mean, we can extrapolate what it must be, and I was getting there, but it helps me a bit to see the hard evidence of it.

http://community.livejournal.com/feminist_rage/504303.html

She is bulemic, in a serious way, and asking for help, here:

http://fishyvb.something-fishy.org/archive/index.php/t-176257.html

hypersurfaces
07-07-2007, 11:23 AM
Hi there.

This is my first post here.

I started purposely throwing up when I was maybe **** or **** years old. At first I thought it was really interesting that I could do this to myself (I had no idea that anyone else did it), and then I started doing it after large meals after feeling extremely guilty for having lost control of how much I ate.

I don't know if it was ever at an extremely dangerous level. There are months I can remember that it was two or three times a week, and then months I can remember doing it only once or not at all.

There are foods I avoid now xxxxx because I am afraid that if I start eating them I will have a very strong urge to throw them up. Other people, like my boyfriend who knows about my problem, may try to keep me occupied after a meal where I've eaten more than I feel like I should have, and I still end up running away from him to lock myself in the bathroom and throw up.

I haven't thrown up in the past week (because I've been conscious of what I've eaten), but the week before that I threw up three or four times.

I retold my psychiatrist about this, and that the problems have been bad lately, but he didn't see it as a problem because I wasn't abusing diuretics or laxatives. And my "binges" were often minor...usually less than ##### calories.

I can't tell sometimes if I'm in danger, and because of that, it's hard to convince myself that I need to get better. I can barely remember a time that I wasn't doing this. Many friends of mine I've confided in claim that it isn't bulimia because I do it because I get extreme urges when I am angry at myself for losing control, and not because I am worried about being fat.

Do you have any advice for me? I know that I'm not as much at danger as some of the rest of you. I'm not sure exactly how I should be dealing with this.

Thanks.
-R

[zillah975]

You are far, far kinder than I am.