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@ 2008-08-13 11:10 pm UTC
The other night I needed the purest trash to fall asleep and stole Moomin's book from his backpack: "The Bungalow Mystery" which is volume 3 of the Nancy Drew series. When I was little I probably read this book 100 times as I had the first 4 in the series. Any others consumed were library books. I was surprised at how good it was. It was fast paced, had a lot of action, and nothing too terribly stupid happened.

SPOILERS!!! ahahahaaha like anyone cares!

It starts out with Nancy and Helen Corning (remember her?) boating at Twin Lakes. Opening paragraph:
Look at those black storm clouds!" Nancy Drew pointed out to her friend, Helen Corning, who was seated beside her in the bow of the small red motorboat.

Not bad really. Action looms! The red motorboat is sporty and cool! Nancy and Helen pass the Bechdel test in sentence 1 of the book!

Also this is much better than the Hardy Boy books which as I recall, plod along awfully even if there are often guns and motorcycles. I think Moomin actually fell asleep during Chapter 1 of the first Hardy Boys mystery.

I really enjoy the way that utterly mundane things are described to sound like utopia or heaven in Nancy Drew books. In this one, it's the attractive tennis courts of the neat, unpretentious Pinecrest Motel. A motel Nancy Drew goes to is unlike any motel you and I have ever attended. I mean, stayed at. Nancy Drew's motels are more like places you attend, though. Crisp-sweatered youths make tennis dates and attend Youth Dances. The well mannered attendants are happy to attend to any polite requests. But back to the storm. As you may very well recall, Nancy and Helen's sporty red motorboat capsizes though they were excellent boaters. Helen bangs her arms somehow so Nancy has to rescue her. A teenager, Laura Pendleton, rescues them. Her dad died long ago in a boating accident so during storms she likes to walk along the beach in the rain and I guess fantasize about saving people. She saves Nancy and Helen! Extra Bechdel points. Laura is a 16 year old Orphan who has been at boarding school and whose mom just died a few months back. She's staying in the Rich People Hotel which has some fake-native-american name to it. Not the Ahwanee, but something like.

Her guardians have never met her! They are unpleasant, and the lady has straggling hair and is rude and her dress is all muddy! They get her mom's name wrong. FOREBODING. Laura has jewels in a safe. Guardians demand jewels! Nancy is suspicious!

Some more teenagers show up to help Nancy move a fallen tree blocking her sporty teal-blue convertible's path - there is a house rather secretly and mysteriously furnished - I have already forgotten the rest of the book but it is very Baudelaire orphans with the fake, evil guardians. There is a captive who turns out to be the real guardian. The tree-moving teenagers are perfect new best friends for orphan Laura. I think some people get hit over the head. Certainly the real guardian is tied up and weak from hunger. Carson Drew steps in at some point because the thief of the bank securities is STUMPY DOWD who is either the fake guardian or his fellow conspirator. Nancy is tied up but cleverly remembers how to hold her hands so that she can slip free. Oh, meanwhile she goes around supposedly to raise money for a charity but really to investigate. Hannah Gruen the housekeeper twists her ankle so Nancy leaves a dinner party to take care of her (fulfilling all girly duties - but only in a temporary perfunctory way) Within like 3 hours Hannah is up and baking pies again on her crutches. The Drew and Gruen women just roll that way.

There are particularly good fast-moving paragraphs scattered all around... phone calls interrupted by ominous loud scuffles and crashes -

Suspicious people are always rude or aggressive, though they may fake pleasantries in an obviously fake way. They are often disheveled, or slovenly, have a squint or a suspicious manner. Good people have a sort of naturally regal bearing and wear crisp sweaters. Or if they have been mussed by spiderwebs in secret tunnels, deserted boathouses, shacks where they rescue tied-up people, and the like, there is a short scene where they tidy up and drink some hot cocoa and then feel MUCH FRESHER.

I swear! It's so weird!

The dinner that Nancy makes for Hannah struck me as a perfect example of white ethnic food. It sort of glorifies it. I believe a neighbor lady brought a chicken casserole over. Nancy quickly pops it into the oven. Then she makes a salad from crisp, pale lettuce and jewel-like tomatoes. I think they might eat these dinners on TV trays in the living room but it is all described to be perfectly GENTEEL. It is sort of how I imagine my grandma Hen and her inner narrative about the wonder of canned peas as she decanted them into the pot for overboiling. So modern and convenient! In a crisp sweater! Doilies and trays! Tall, cool, glasses of refreshing milk all around!

What the hell is a crisp sweater set? I'll never know! They're only in the Nancyverse!

The badness of the early Nancy Drew books I think are mostly about class. Hobos are definitely suspicious. There are a lot of grifter types. Shady... rootless... con men and women roaming through River Heights!

Later books get more into the racist stereotypes. The one I'm trying to read now is The Mystery of the Ivory Charm. I think there was a giant phase in the ND book formula where Nancy meets a vaguely ethnic person (Scottish... Gypsy... Hindu... Canadian... Hawaiian... like that) they should be an orphan or an old lady who needs help... Or a deserving Young Person ... they either have a mysterious valuable object such as this book's IVORY CHARM or else they are looking for one that's been in their family forever. Ned Nickerson may show up, or Bess and George, to spout a few facts about Country X. Nancy goes on a trip, eats a national or ethnic food, is given a lovely gift, learns something such as a gipsy dance or how to play the bagpipes or speak a few crucial lines of Sanskrit, and makes true friends wherever she goes. One exotic foreigner is always good, and has a large family or tribe or circus or village or Scottish Ladies' Harp-playing club, and one exotic foreigner is the bad, low class one.

I prefer the honkeyverse of River Heights sometimes and of The Bungalow Mystery with its iceberg lettuce.. Back slowly away from that dark man who is about to give you a secret elephant charm... you are about to take a trip to racistville... return slowly and with dignity to your own land of River Heights, where your dad, Carson Drew, a prominent lawyer, will help you help the neat, faded widow lady who smells of lavender and writes a check to your Youth Fund, to sell the family land while discovering its hidden treasure so that River Heights can finally have the perfect golf course and the old lady get rich.. Get in your honkeyverse and stay there! Celebrate its iceberg lettuce and its crisp, pleasant soda crackers as you boldly catch a bank thief for Chief McGinnis!

Nancy is so resourceful. She always has a flashlight on her. "Fortunately, Nancy always carried an overnight case in her car trunk. It contained pajamas and robe, two changes of clothing, toilet articles, and, this time of year, a bathing suit, as well as her crisp, polished, secret triple-bladed dagger with blood groove." Oh wait.

ONward to read another. The Ivory Charm one is making me barf. I think it is a later edition heavily edited. As if they tried to take out the racist bits in this 1974 edition, but forgot some of them, so the plot doesn't make sense anymore. Oh nancy back away from the elephant, the ivory charm, the surly man who claims to be the boy's father but isn't, and the boy with the long eyelashes with the regal bearing who speaks such poetic hindi according to River Height's most learned professor and one of its prominent citizens, and his strange tales of the man who was not his father and the secret his mother told him on her deathbed... The broken English is not helping... I fear we may see Nancy put a new Rajah on a throne in a tiny and oddly named State in India...

I do love the names of the places in Nancy Drew. Pine Crest. River Heights. Beach Cliff.


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[identity profile] sasha-feather.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 06:56 am UTC (link)
This was fun to read!

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 02:29 pm UTC (link)
It was fun to write! I nearly fell asleep in the middle so I was happy to wake up and find it mostly coherent...

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[identity profile] coraa.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 06:57 am UTC (link)
I haven't read a Nancy Drew Book in fifteen years, but before I was twelve I read them endlessly.

I'm sure if I read them now I'd find plenty to object to -- class stuff I can definitely believe -- but what I remember most was that Ned didn't (in my recollection) take the stage over from Nancy. He was mostly around when she needed someone to move heavy objects or take her to a dance, but the mystery solving? The snooping? The ill-advised sneaking into mysterious basements? Pretty much all Nancy (and Bess and George) (note to the un-initiated: George is a girl).

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 07:05 am UTC (link)
Yes! Ned even gets rescued a bit! He doesn't ever go "Oh Nancy when will you give up this mystery stuff!" Or if he did she would just smile and go "Never! I love it too much! and sail off to get some delicious chicken and waffles before noticing a secret compartment in that old oak tree...

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(Anonymous)
2008-08-14 08:15 am UTC (link)
I actually haven't read Nancy Drew so this was an excellent abstract. Thank you.

I read red-covered Bobbsey Twins editions from the twenties (when at school it was all Tom Betty & Susan) for my honkeyverse. They had a black maid whose dialogue was all written in dialect in that charming twenties way they had, and were socially just weird enough to me to be a little puzzling.

Then I started reading Edgar Rice Burroughs which kept me going for a long time, and there are some pretty dubious racist goings on in Tarzan's Africa, also dastardly Eastern European anarchists, boy howdy. Not to mention the fantasy linguistics.

I love postmodernist reading as she is practiced on the ground.

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[identity profile] maryread.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 08:16 am UTC (link)
I actually haven't read Nancy Drew so this was an excellent abstract. Thank you.

I read red-covered Bobbsey Twins editions from the twenties (when at school it was all Tom Betty & Susan) for my honkeyverse. They had a black maid whose dialogue was all written in dialect in that charming twenties way they had, and were socially just weird enough to me to be a little puzzling.

Then I started reading Edgar Rice Burroughs which kept me going for a long time, and there are some pretty dubious racist goings on in Tarzan's Africa, also dastardly Eastern European anarchists, boy howdy. Not to mention the fantasy linguistics.

I love postmodernist reading as she is practiced on the ground.

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 02:25 pm UTC (link)
The Bobbseys' servants are Dinah and Sam Johnson, a black married couple who are very superstitious and do a lot of eye rolling and engage in "hilarious" malapropisms along with their dialect. Dinah is the cook and housekeeper, while Sam is the driver (horses, at first, then cars) and handyman. One wonders about the biographies of Dinah and Sam, so clearly from the South and not from the obviously northern Laketown. It was 1904 in Book 1 of the Bobbseys. Dinah and Sam may have had some interesting history. Here is a fabulous opportunity to rewrite a little slice of Bobbsey Twin universe from the point of view of Dinah.

So the thing that was fascinating me about The Bungalow Mystery was that there was no racist caricature in it (unlike so many of the other ND books, which seem to depend on the racist caricatures to define the middle class white people's whiteness). The Bobbseys do depend on racist caricature for their whiteness. The Happy Hollisters don't and in fact I don't think they really tend to meet anyone who is not white. The Hollisters are in a fantasy honkeyverse where there are no people of color at all.

In Nancy Drew's world there are isolated moments of exoticised contact with people of color who, if they are not villains, are nobility of some kind; Gypsy princesses or orphaned sons of Rajahs kidnapped and forced to work in the circus doing tricks on the back of elephants. I am trying to remember any actual African-American characters in a Nancy Drew book. Now there's a project. I think they got left out somewhere. Not enough princesses??!!

I have not looked at modern reprints of the Bobbseys but it would be fascinating to see how they edit the racist parts.

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[identity profile] maryread.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 11:44 pm UTC (link)
At this point I am thinking just getting a look at the various editions would be a majorly librarian type project. There must have been a couple dozen books in the original series. The old ones I had when I was a kid were gleaned from second-hand stores, which I left to a favorite teacher to be probably used to pieces; while slick-cover new editions were then already coming out that I disdained and never bought, not understanding that there might be some text alterations -- which I now run into as the "old" second-hand editions...

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[identity profile] maryread.livejournal.com
2008-08-15 12:25 am UTC (link)
Jane Porter before she becomes Tarzan's You Jane has a black maid. Esmerelda? Very stereotypical, with dialect. Because I suppose she can't be traveling on a ship with just her dear absent-minded papa and all those rough seamen some of whom have evil thoughts. Except for the gallant French officer of course. (But I seem to recall Zora Neale Hurston writing in dialect, maybe I'm wrong, because that was a thing in the twenties, pseudo-phonetic spelling.)

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[identity profile] creidylad.livejournal.com
2008-08-15 03:26 am UTC (link)
One of the interesting things about the 'stereotypical' old Southern black accent was that it DID exist -- There is an interesting history of Black culture trying to disown that dialect as too embarrassing. Butterfly McQueen who played Gone with the Wind's Prissy Really Spoke That Way. That was her actual voice. Yet you had people protesting the film because of her accent among other things...

Either way, this was a hysterical write-up of Nancy Drew -- makes me want to go reread Mystery on Larkspur Lane!

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[identity profile] maryread.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 11:35 pm UTC (link)
woops. sorry. delete xtra unsigned post?

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[identity profile] liviapenn.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 09:39 am UTC (link)

If only the villains of Nancy Drew books would just be polite to her, they would totally get away with whatever it is they're scheming. Only evil people are ever so low-class as to be (gasp) short with Nancy! That's how you know they're evil!

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 02:13 pm UTC (link)
So true!

God, I'm reading another one with my coffee this morning and there are some low class rude people (scruffy) and some humble poor people (combed, polite). The humble poor people have nothing to hide of course and don't mind just telling Nancy Drew everything about their lives, for no good reason!

The villains would also get away with more if they would just comb their hair and put on a little powder. Or for men, have less flashy cufflinks. Carson Drew has tasteful gold cufflinks with a diagonal black stripe across the middle. Our current villain has red ones with a black star in the middle. Eeeeevil!

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[identity profile] thatpatti-guest.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 02:29 pm UTC (link)
shut up! last week at the thrift store i bought the five little peppers, nancys's mysterious letter(red cuff links one), and the dana girls and the phantom surfer.

The dana girls are always going off on a jaunt with their dates, saving a small girl from drowning and the re is the haughty schoolmate who always tries to spoil their fun. they are also always learning some groovy new lingo.

Barf me out!

-minnie

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 02:47 pm UTC (link)
Ahahaha I'm right in the middle of Nancy's Mysterious Letter! I've never read the Dana Girls.

I love the 5 little peppers with the, well, with something extreme. I love it, anyway. My god those horrible little brats. Don't you just want to slap the hell out of Joel and Davie and certainly Phronsie too whenever they do something mildly naughty and then cry for 5 hours with the guilt of it; so much worse than the original offense.

I think of Polly and her mom sewing sacks whenever I am at a coffee shop and see a big burlap sack of coffee beans....

gee whockety!!!!



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[identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 11:15 am UTC (link)
What the hell is a crisp sweater set?

Something this kind of character would wear? (http://www.afterellen.com/blog/stuntdouble/gossip-girl-readies-new-season-with-some-newly-released-photos)

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[identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 03:02 pm UTC (link)
Oh, no. She's way too modern.

I'm old enough to remember sweater sets with little clasps to hold the sweater together at the top. What would make it "crisp" is a good question: I'm thinking that means completely unwrinkled and unmussed.

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[identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 03:03 pm UTC (link)
I don't remember that one; I do remember The Mystery of the Old Clock, which I think is the first one.

My true love was not Nancy Drew but Cherry Ames, and I wonder now how much racist muck there was in those. I re-read them endlessly and I don't remember any, but I don't remember the Bobbsey Twins' servants either.

For a while, Terri Windling was rooming with Ellen Steiber, who was the source of my favorite Nancy Drew quotation of all time: "When I was growing up, I desperately wanted to meet Carolyn Keene and now I am her!"

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 03:18 pm UTC (link)
I adore Cherry Ames! I could do a detailed overview of race and racism in Cherry Ames too. From what I can recall offhand, there is a deliberate drive to a sort of melting pot attitude. There are lots of Deserving Immigrants in Cherry Ames book and they might be quaint or exotic in a nice yet mild way and definitely in need of help. But I don't recall any themes of their nobility or villainy. Ames arose during WWII and there is a bit of "Our Allies The Chinese" going on as well as a sort of positioning as Custodian of the Free World. We can look a bit at Mai Lee who is in Cherry's class at nursing school and often is her roommate as the Spencer Nursing School crew hop about the world living together in homosocial nurse-cap-wearing paradise.

There is a fairly amazing honkeyverse effect whenever Cherry goes home to ummmm I think Hilton, (Ohio??) to her house in the suburbs.

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[identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 04:40 pm UTC (link)
Oh, I forgot Mai Lee! She made perfect sense to me, since I had a close Chinese friend at that time (and have had one at almost every period of my life since).

I think the homosocial nature of those books made a big impression on me.

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[identity profile] creidylad.livejournal.com
2008-08-15 03:31 am UTC (link)
My true love was Trixie Belden. I wonder if I can get copies of all my old books again; alas, the originals went up in the fire at my parents' house...

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-15 03:59 am UTC (link)
I pick up Trixie Beldens fairly often at library booksales, quite cheap! They're probably even cheaper online.

Somewhere I have a grrrrreat illustration from the one where Trixie and Honey are on a steamboat that's sinking and they're hogtied and it's just.... well.... so naughty.

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[identity profile] beatrice-rta.livejournal.com
2008-08-15 01:55 pm UTC (link)
Oh dear... If there is Trixie Belden slash fic out there I may have to stab my eyes out with a spoon.

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 03:24 pm UTC (link)
The Bobbsey Twins' servants were edited a lot I think. They would have to be. It was really over the top!

In older editions of Nancy Drew I remember from my grandma's house (wish I had those) Hannah was more of a Servant and less part of the family. I wonder if there were more people of color in the early books and they got edited out b/c of being racist caricatures.

I am in mid-mixed-feelings about Bumpo at the moment in Voyages of Dr. Doolittle and have explained (to Moomin while reading it) that while Polynesia is wise and cool and funny, she is also very racist... And that it is wrong to describe (as Lofting does) the Indians as childlike savages who see the Great White Man as a god. SIGH





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[identity profile] al-zorra.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Since I read everything and everything I read some Nancy Drew when I was a child, but unlike my younger sister, the books were very far from the top of my list of what I liked best to read.

But on one level they were fascinating: I just couldn't get a handle on what you call the nancyverse. There was enough similarity to the daily world I inhabited that made me believe this should be the same. But Nancy's world was so very different.

Partly, I suppose that was due to me living in a working rural world in a quite isolated part of the U.S. Also, because the copies that my Mom had were from another time, which though maybe not so far from my own, when you've only lived nine years can seem an millennium even more removed than that of the Ceasars.

But I could never quite grasp the world Nancy inhabited -- and that included the respect and kindness and generosity accorded to her, a kid - A GIRL -- by her father!

Her world seemed to be another one of those Other Worlds that had an existence only within their series, like The Bobbsey Twins, which my first grade teacher would read aloud to us, get us settled back down, after lunch hour. Again, they were set in a historical past that didn't seem to touch my daily world either. It didn't even touch the past as I learned it from endless hours poring over my grandparents' and great grandparents' photo albums (which is one the most important sources for the formation of my sense of history).

World building doesn't have to be limited to SF/F.

Love, C.

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[identity profile] wild-irises.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 04:41 pm UTC (link)
When I went back to Dr. Doolittle about 10-15 years ago, I found it completely unreadable because of the racism. On the other hand, the same thing happened with the "nonfiction" Microbe Hunters, a very very favorite re-read from childhood which just oozes with nasty patronizing racism and sexism now.

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 05:24 pm UTC (link)
As a character in the later books, Bumpo has many awesome qualities. He is no longer obsessed with being white or with princesses. He is rather sweet and funny and definitely brave and respected by the Doctor and Stubbins. He goes to Oxford and all. But his malapropisms are ... It's about 90/10 to whether he is just using slightly fancy English words to when he gets it completely wrong. Polynesia though can really let off the n word. Gah. I am editing in margins in pen.

The other racism - well, the Great White Father stuff, arrrrrgh - often it is mostly British imperial father etc. but with emphasis on the White part. I noticed the Empire implications of how the White and the Black and the Red all fight mightily together in the battle with the Bagjagderags.

I am curious to go through some of the other later Dolittle books with an eye to race and racism -- in those, where he is in England or on the Moon, there is less of it and we are left with the role of Bumpo and his Oxford African English.

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[identity profile] ide-cyan.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 04:57 pm UTC (link)
...also: seriously, have you ever watched Veronica Mars?

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[identity profile] badgerbag.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 05:24 pm UTC (link)
I have not! Not yet!

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[identity profile] mizchalmers.livejournal.com
2008-08-14 05:10 pm UTC (link)
My brother has a favorite honkytown, Pine Mountain Lake (http://www.pinemountainlake.com/) near Yosemite. He calls it Noun Noun Noun. There's even a Pine Mountain Lake Drive, which he calls Noun Noun Noun Noun.

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