badgerbag: (Default)
[personal profile] badgerbag
Could someone just tell me who the creepy dude is? The people who were there or who are in the know, know. I'd also like to know.

here's the original post about Readercon

I want to know in part because of this claim:

Actually, there’s quite a bit of evidence going around that the man who harassed Ms. Valentine was not clueless, but was intentionally using pick-up artist techniques on her. He’s know to do this, and several people have come forward to say so. He also actively works against con harassment policies.

The automatic assumption in geek circles always seems to be that a harasser just doesn’t know he’s doing anything wrong. It’s often not true, though. A lot of these men are either actively studying PUA tactics, or have been told repeatedly that their behavior is creepy and unacceptable and refuse to change their behavior.

I’m not saying we should automatically assume they’re doing it knowingly, but I am saying we shouldn’t automatically assume they’re not.

Date: 2012-07-26 06:54 pm (UTC)
apis_mellifera: (Default)
From: [personal profile] apis_mellifera
Someone provided a physical description of the person and someone else provided a possible name in the discussions I observed. I was able to track down elseweb a picture of this person and the two matched. I did not not see this person harassing Genevieve, though, and I spent a fair bit of time chatting with her (which does not mean it did not happen! It just didn't happen in my presence!).

I would be happy to give you the name of the person I believe it was privately. My email is eilatan at gmail.

Date: 2012-07-27 07:35 pm (UTC)
altamira16: A sailboat on the water at dawn or dusk (Default)
From: [personal profile] altamira16
Here is a good followup.

Date: 2012-07-27 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [personal profile] vaurora
Good point on not assuming it was done unintentionally!

Date: 2012-07-27 11:02 pm (UTC)
delux_vivens: (Default)
From: [personal profile] delux_vivens
pickup "artist".

*stares*

Date: 2012-07-27 11:58 pm (UTC)
delux_vivens: (beautiful hands)
From: [personal profile] delux_vivens
neither fucking, nor artists.

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